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	<description>My pre-construction condo in Miami</description>
	<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 05:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on On local news last night by Samir Patel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samir Patel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 16:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry dude,

When you walk away from preconstruction you just lose the money because you don't have a mortgage yet. Technically the developer could take you to court to try to get a judgement to force you to close but I doubt any developer is stupid enough to do that.

-Samir</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry dude,</p>
<p>When you walk away from preconstruction you just lose the money because you don&#8217;t have a mortgage yet. Technically the developer could take you to court to try to get a judgement to force you to close but I doubt any developer is stupid enough to do that.</p>
<p>-Samir</p>
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		<title>Comment on On local news last night by joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 00:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude before you put money down you should have financing secured. you obviously wanted to profit from it and sell it later for a bigger price.
so the prices went south and you lost. so swallow it like a man. stop trashing everybody else. plaza on brickell is doing great. it is just your problem that you got burned</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude before you put money down you should have financing secured. you obviously wanted to profit from it and sell it later for a bigger price.<br />
so the prices went south and you lost. so swallow it like a man. stop trashing everybody else. plaza on brickell is doing great. it is just your problem that you got burned</p>
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		<title>Comment on Recovery plan by One Ford Road</title>
		<link>http://www.condofiasco.com/2007/11/10/recovery-plan/#comment-1029</link>
		<dc:creator>One Ford Road</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree.  Walk away.  Buying would be a foolish decision.

Amanda &#60;3</description>
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<p>Amanda &lt;3</p>
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		<title>Comment on On local news last night by W.C. Varones</title>
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		<dc:creator>W.C. Varones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 19:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what's the conclusion?  Did you walk away?  I think you'll be glad you did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what&#8217;s the conclusion?  Did you walk away?  I think you&#8217;ll be glad you did.</p>
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		<title>Comment on About Me by slugbelch</title>
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		<dc:creator>slugbelch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 21:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in Ft. Lauderdale (Tamarac) and at $285k (with $30k down), your payments will be $1,600/month and an additional $1k will be for everything else (insurance/taxes/etc.). I bought a 3 bedroom house/garage with a huge front and back yard for the same price 2 years ago. Only 10 min to the beach, big deal. Miami is indeed getting bad. I have been following all this down here and everybody is saying that bottom around here won't hit until late 2009/2010 at the very least. People are starting to get another house while they are low $ and their credit is good, then short sale or dump or walk away the high price one. The only snag to all this is that banks are now much more stingy to give out money. I went to refinance one day and they all told me that whatever loan you get, you need to come up with 20% for starters. That has now become a basic requirement from banks down here.

In every industrial park you enter here, there are "For Lease" signs on nearly every building. People and companies are indeed getting out of here because they see no future with the high cost of living getting even higher. Fixed income people "the elderly" have experienced a huge drop off from moving down here. Don't see it changing anytime soon, at least for another 5 years to notice any change for the better.

Get out of Miami and get out fast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in Ft. Lauderdale (Tamarac) and at $285k (with $30k down), your payments will be $1,600/month and an additional $1k will be for everything else (insurance/taxes/etc.). I bought a 3 bedroom house/garage with a huge front and back yard for the same price 2 years ago. Only 10 min to the beach, big deal. Miami is indeed getting bad. I have been following all this down here and everybody is saying that bottom around here won&#8217;t hit until late 2009/2010 at the very least. People are starting to get another house while they are low $ and their credit is good, then short sale or dump or walk away the high price one. The only snag to all this is that banks are now much more stingy to give out money. I went to refinance one day and they all told me that whatever loan you get, you need to come up with 20% for starters. That has now become a basic requirement from banks down here.</p>
<p>In every industrial park you enter here, there are &#8220;For Lease&#8221; signs on nearly every building. People and companies are indeed getting out of here because they see no future with the high cost of living getting even higher. Fixed income people &#8220;the elderly&#8221; have experienced a huge drop off from moving down here. Don&#8217;t see it changing anytime soon, at least for another 5 years to notice any change for the better.</p>
<p>Get out of Miami and get out fast.</p>
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		<title>Comment on On local news last night by sorry dude</title>
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		<dc:creator>sorry dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 16:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arent you concerned that when you walk away, that you may ruin your credit for years to come?</description>
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		<title>Comment on About Me by William</title>
		<link>http://www.condofiasco.com/about/#comment-978</link>
		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 11:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sure you would......</description>
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		<title>Comment on About Me by Nick Alkof</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Alkof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 01:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>miami is a friggin dump id rather be starving in Africa then live in Miami</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>miami is a friggin dump id rather be starving in Africa then live in Miami</p>
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		<title>Comment on About Me by William</title>
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		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 00:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't see why we have to go and trash each others cities...we are all part of the U.S., sure some floridians got a little greedy and got the "hot potatoe" but surely the lesson has been learned? I've been living here for over 40 years and have run into many visitors and never see them complain about our great food, coffee, cigars, clubs or beaches. Miami has a unique cultural diversity that I think would be hard to replicate in Indiana? Indiana.....doesn't even sound right. I'm sure its a great place but when your in Miami you know your somewhere special, now whether you visit or participate in its dark side is just a matter of choice. I'm sure I could find any of the local drugs and thugs in Indiana or any other state if you look for them. It's only money my friends, you can get more! At least your sitting at home on your computer taking pot shots at each other......think about it, you could be in Iraq, starving in Africa or locked up in Cuba for trying to feed your family??? 70g's just not that important!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see why we have to go and trash each others cities&#8230;we are all part of the U.S., sure some floridians got a little greedy and got the &#8220;hot potatoe&#8221; but surely the lesson has been learned? I&#8217;ve been living here for over 40 years and have run into many visitors and never see them complain about our great food, coffee, cigars, clubs or beaches. Miami has a unique cultural diversity that I think would be hard to replicate in Indiana? Indiana&#8230;..doesn&#8217;t even sound right. I&#8217;m sure its a great place but when your in Miami you know your somewhere special, now whether you visit or participate in its dark side is just a matter of choice. I&#8217;m sure I could find any of the local drugs and thugs in Indiana or any other state if you look for them. It&#8217;s only money my friends, you can get more! At least your sitting at home on your computer taking pot shots at each other&#8230;&#8230;think about it, you could be in Iraq, starving in Africa or locked up in Cuba for trying to feed your family??? 70g&#8217;s just not that important!</p>
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		<title>Comment on About Me by Nick Alkof</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Alkof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 00:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reply to Marcela Mancinni
Comment from Marcela Mancinni
Time: May 27, 2008, 8:03 pm

what planet do you live in that a 1/1 condo in miami rents for 1700. im sorry but you are the biggest sucker for buying in especially at a time like this.  Italians most be the biggest idiots.</description>
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Comment from Marcela Mancinni<br />
Time: May 27, 2008, 8:03 pm</p>
<p>what planet do you live in that a 1/1 condo in miami rents for 1700. im sorry but you are the biggest sucker for buying in especially at a time like this.  Italians most be the biggest idiots.</p>
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		<title>Comment on On local news last night by sorry dude</title>
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		<dc:creator>sorry dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 17:37:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am stunned that a smart man like you have gotten yourself in such a hole.  Anybody who had a passing interest should have known Miami was about to implode.  Go to any Miami-cotent message board, you will hear about the horrific Cuban-led racism, rudeness, traffic, crime, cost of living etc, etc.  Miami is only home to those that cannot escape Miami.

However, i agree that you are smart to walk away from your condo.  As those new condos will be nothing more than Section 8 public housing 3-5 years from now.  Especially as the future Miami crime wave begin to strangle the throat of Miami-Dade county.

I, however, as a recent law student graduate, will soon join the hundreds of other future prosecutors to practice in Miami.  As the word in the legal circiles is that Miami will soon turn into the most crime-ridden city in the Western Hemisphere.


Good luck, and god bless,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am stunned that a smart man like you have gotten yourself in such a hole.  Anybody who had a passing interest should have known Miami was about to implode.  Go to any Miami-cotent message board, you will hear about the horrific Cuban-led racism, rudeness, traffic, crime, cost of living etc, etc.  Miami is only home to those that cannot escape Miami.</p>
<p>However, i agree that you are smart to walk away from your condo.  As those new condos will be nothing more than Section 8 public housing 3-5 years from now.  Especially as the future Miami crime wave begin to strangle the throat of Miami-Dade county.</p>
<p>I, however, as a recent law student graduate, will soon join the hundreds of other future prosecutors to practice in Miami.  As the word in the legal circiles is that Miami will soon turn into the most crime-ridden city in the Western Hemisphere.</p>
<p>Good luck, and god bless,</p>
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		<title>Comment on About Me by Sebastian Formoso</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sebastian Formoso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 16:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW!  I've never seen a website with so many people hanging on false hopes of a "recovery".  

Let's face it, Miami has nothing to offer.  

For starters, why would a baby-boomer retire to Miami when the working class can't even afford to live in Miami?  Can you imagine living in Miami on your baby-boomer retirement income?  Who's out there assuming that baby-boomers are showered in cash?  Besides, I tend to think that baby-boomers have a lot more taste and class that Miami just can't match.

Future recovery!  Most of you are under the assumption that some mythical recovery will take place in 1 to 2 years.  Some in the media are under the assumption that this might even happen in 5 years.  Well, I'd hate to be the reality bitch slap, but there will be no 1 to 2 year recovery or even 5.  We haven't even hit bottom yet and once we do, it will take about 15 years for this economy to get back into shape.  In the mean time, incomes will be tied up with debt and just trying to meet basic needs (gasoline, food, medical bills).  Furthermore, Miami's economy is upside down with companies fleeing since the desirable human capital pool has fled to bigger better places (including me).  Face it, no one wants to work in ghetto Miami!  Oh, and it's not bad press...it's reality!  In fact, out of all the large metros in the USA, Miami has the highest poverty rate in the nation (Miami is the poorest large city).  So how can anyone possibly claim that Miami's real estate will pickup in 2 years?  

The Miami is the New Manhattan fallacy.  Perhaps this would be true if Manhattan was a 3rd world country; but it's not!   How can anyone actually be out there comparing Miami to any world class city?  Nice weather?  From June through November, Miamians don't know if they'll be homeless from one week to the next thanks to a HURRICANE!  So much for nice weather.  Not fun to live in terror for 6 months out of the year.  Where are Miami's cultural attractions to compare them to Manhattan?  Do you think that the Miami Museum of Art can compare to anything in Manhattan?  Get real!  What about schools?  Do you honestly think that FIU or UM offer anything?  No one, and I mean no one, is out there head hunting for the latests UM or FIU graduate.  Brickell will never be anything.  Have you every tried walking left of Brickell, just one block in and you're in one of the most crime and drug infested neighborhoods I've ever seen.  Green spaces; I guess Miami's Tropical Park can be compared to Central Park!  

My advice to you is not to walk away.  Run away instead.  Miami's real estate boom was built on hype.  Snake oil sales men took advantage of a lot of banks and a lot of foreigners and when the locals got caught up in Uber Town the locals got burnt.  When you factor in your mortgage, your insurance, your taxes, and your association fees you are going to be loosing more than you will ever hope to make from a sale in Miami.  If you can live in the place then live in it; but then again, who'd want to live in a one bedroom "condo".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW!  I&#8217;ve never seen a website with so many people hanging on false hopes of a &#8220;recovery&#8221;.  </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s face it, Miami has nothing to offer.  </p>
<p>For starters, why would a baby-boomer retire to Miami when the working class can&#8217;t even afford to live in Miami?  Can you imagine living in Miami on your baby-boomer retirement income?  Who&#8217;s out there assuming that baby-boomers are showered in cash?  Besides, I tend to think that baby-boomers have a lot more taste and class that Miami just can&#8217;t match.</p>
<p>Future recovery!  Most of you are under the assumption that some mythical recovery will take place in 1 to 2 years.  Some in the media are under the assumption that this might even happen in 5 years.  Well, I&#8217;d hate to be the reality bitch slap, but there will be no 1 to 2 year recovery or even 5.  We haven&#8217;t even hit bottom yet and once we do, it will take about 15 years for this economy to get back into shape.  In the mean time, incomes will be tied up with debt and just trying to meet basic needs (gasoline, food, medical bills).  Furthermore, Miami&#8217;s economy is upside down with companies fleeing since the desirable human capital pool has fled to bigger better places (including me).  Face it, no one wants to work in ghetto Miami!  Oh, and it&#8217;s not bad press&#8230;it&#8217;s reality!  In fact, out of all the large metros in the USA, Miami has the highest poverty rate in the nation (Miami is the poorest large city).  So how can anyone possibly claim that Miami&#8217;s real estate will pickup in 2 years?  </p>
<p>The Miami is the New Manhattan fallacy.  Perhaps this would be true if Manhattan was a 3rd world country; but it&#8217;s not!   How can anyone actually be out there comparing Miami to any world class city?  Nice weather?  From June through November, Miamians don&#8217;t know if they&#8217;ll be homeless from one week to the next thanks to a HURRICANE!  So much for nice weather.  Not fun to live in terror for 6 months out of the year.  Where are Miami&#8217;s cultural attractions to compare them to Manhattan?  Do you think that the Miami Museum of Art can compare to anything in Manhattan?  Get real!  What about schools?  Do you honestly think that FIU or UM offer anything?  No one, and I mean no one, is out there head hunting for the latests UM or FIU graduate.  Brickell will never be anything.  Have you every tried walking left of Brickell, just one block in and you&#8217;re in one of the most crime and drug infested neighborhoods I&#8217;ve ever seen.  Green spaces; I guess Miami&#8217;s Tropical Park can be compared to Central Park!  </p>
<p>My advice to you is not to walk away.  Run away instead.  Miami&#8217;s real estate boom was built on hype.  Snake oil sales men took advantage of a lot of banks and a lot of foreigners and when the locals got caught up in Uber Town the locals got burnt.  When you factor in your mortgage, your insurance, your taxes, and your association fees you are going to be loosing more than you will ever hope to make from a sale in Miami.  If you can live in the place then live in it; but then again, who&#8217;d want to live in a one bedroom &#8220;condo&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on About Me by Andres Bustamante</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andres Bustamante</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 15:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Reply to Marcela Mancinni 
Comment from Marcela Mancinni
Time: May 27, 2008, 8:03 pm&lt;/i&gt;

Darling, who in Miami has the money to pay $1,700 a month for an apartment?  You are proof that Italians have no clue as to what they're doing or talking about.  

What's this 1 to 2 year time frame you're coming up with?  The Miami condo market will NEVER recover because so much overpriced garbage was built that no amount of buyers will ever absorb the worthless inventory that's out there.  Miami's outrageous taxes and outrageous insurance rates are caping the market to death.  

Furthermore, there is no economy in Miami other than drug dealing and prostitution.  Companies are bolting out of Miami like the plague had struck.  And they're doing it for good reasons; because no company wants to do business in the Miami Banana Republic.  

I can't help but agree with Brickell Princess:  "In fact, for $200,000 I could buy what Miamians would consider a MANSION in Indianapolis, Indiana. So why would I overpay you for a hole in the wall that doesn’t even have enough closet space to store my luggage between trips?!?"

Garbage always gets built in Miami since people in Miami have such low standards.</description>
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Comment from Marcela Mancinni<br />
Time: May 27, 2008, 8:03 pm</i></p>
<p>Darling, who in Miami has the money to pay $1,700 a month for an apartment?  You are proof that Italians have no clue as to what they&#8217;re doing or talking about.  </p>
<p>What&#8217;s this 1 to 2 year time frame you&#8217;re coming up with?  The Miami condo market will NEVER recover because so much overpriced garbage was built that no amount of buyers will ever absorb the worthless inventory that&#8217;s out there.  Miami&#8217;s outrageous taxes and outrageous insurance rates are caping the market to death.  </p>
<p>Furthermore, there is no economy in Miami other than drug dealing and prostitution.  Companies are bolting out of Miami like the plague had struck.  And they&#8217;re doing it for good reasons; because no company wants to do business in the Miami Banana Republic.  </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t help but agree with Brickell Princess:  &#8220;In fact, for $200,000 I could buy what Miamians would consider a MANSION in Indianapolis, Indiana. So why would I overpay you for a hole in the wall that doesn’t even have enough closet space to store my luggage between trips?!?&#8221;</p>
<p>Garbage always gets built in Miami since people in Miami have such low standards.</p>
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		<title>Comment on About Me by Brickell Princessss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brickell Princessss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 15:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, is that condo (AKA:  pigeon hole in the wall) made of gold?  The thing you're failing to mention is why I would ever bother over paying for something, a hole in the wall, that isn't worth it!

I would price that condo at $88,000...and that's being INCREDIBLY generous.  Why?  Because there is plenty of real estate in the USA to be had that offers a lot more architecture, better construction, better neighborhoods, oh, and a city with actual CULTURE for much le$$.  Beaches, they're everywhere baby!  Texas has beaches that are a million times better than anything in Hurricane Alley Miami.   

In fact, for $200,000 I could buy what Miamians would consider a MANSION in Indianapolis, Indiana.  So why would I overpay you for a hole in the wall that doesn't even have enough closet space to store my luggage between trips?!?

My advice to you, is to grow up next time you decide you're man enough to play with the big boys.  Because the big boys of real estate sure bit your greedy pretentious ass pretty bad.  They sold you junk!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, is that condo (AKA:  pigeon hole in the wall) made of gold?  The thing you&#8217;re failing to mention is why I would ever bother over paying for something, a hole in the wall, that isn&#8217;t worth it!</p>
<p>I would price that condo at $88,000&#8230;and that&#8217;s being INCREDIBLY generous.  Why?  Because there is plenty of real estate in the USA to be had that offers a lot more architecture, better construction, better neighborhoods, oh, and a city with actual CULTURE for much le$$.  Beaches, they&#8217;re everywhere baby!  Texas has beaches that are a million times better than anything in Hurricane Alley Miami.   </p>
<p>In fact, for $200,000 I could buy what Miamians would consider a MANSION in Indianapolis, Indiana.  So why would I overpay you for a hole in the wall that doesn&#8217;t even have enough closet space to store my luggage between trips?!?</p>
<p>My advice to you, is to grow up next time you decide you&#8217;re man enough to play with the big boys.  Because the big boys of real estate sure bit your greedy pretentious ass pretty bad.  They sold you junk!</p>
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		<title>Comment on 1 week Left till I lose the condo by Marcela Mancinni</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcela Mancinni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 02:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do you expect to sell your condo if you dont put some photos, description, floor, view, etc? Which is the floor? how many bedrooms?</description>
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